Voir la version complète : Février 2007 Vente véhicules Canada
http://www.desrosiers.ca/pdfs/sales.pdf
Les gagnants sont Nissan 33%, Mazda 12% , Mitsubishi 13%, VW 17% !
Honda -3% et Toyota 3% ont ''Toppé''
Grosse Drop pour Suzuki & Volvo 28%....
Faut pas s'en tenir à un mois seulement, ça dit rien. Si on regarde le cumulatif, Toy est en hausse de 6,2%, Mitsu semble être parti pour la gloire à 39,9% pour les 2 premiers mois de l'année. Idem pour Lexus 33,7%, Mazda 18,6% (le CX-7 se vend bien), Mercedes 19%, Nissan 35,5% (tiens la Versa et la nouvelle Altima fonctionne), et que dire de Volks un beau 25% (on le doit à qui?), Volvo -17% (oups).
Les 3 grands américains continuent d'avoir de grosses difficultés.
Chrysler 0,4%, Ford 16,4%, GM -4,2%
et que dire de Volks un beau 25% (on le doit à qui?)
La Rabbit, point.
wowlesmoteurs
02/03/2007, 12h38
et que dire de Volks un beau 25% (on le doit à qui?)
La Rabbit, point.
je dirais plutot aux city.
A la city OUI a la rabbit OUI ...Mais aussi la fiabilité chez vw est de beaucoup meilleur(dans les mk5) qu'elle etais(dans la mk4)
La jetta ce vend bien aussi!!!
Tant mieux pour Volks. Reste maintenant à polir le réseau de distribution et le service à la clientèle et Volks sera un joueur encore plus dangeureux (il l'est déjà) dans son segment.
RacingTeacher
02/03/2007, 15h33
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Tant mieux pour Volks. Reste maintenant à polir le réseau de distribution et le service à la clientèle et Volks sera un joueur encore plus dangeureux (il l'est déjà) dans son segment
Ils ont juste à avoir au moins 3 Rabbit pis 2-3 City dans la cour et ca serait déjà un bon début.
C'est pas tout le monde qui aime acheter un char 6 mois d'avance sans savoir le taux d'intérêt à ce moment....
C'est décevant pour Suzuki.
Beaucoup de compétition directe avec le SX-4 et le Vitara.
C'est décevant pour Suzuki.
Beaucoup de compétition directe avec le SX-4 et le Vitara.
Je comprend pas juste pas ce qui se passe. Outre le SX-4, me semble que Suzuki avait fait leurs devoirs avec le Grand Vitara.
Ouais...c'est triste pour Suzuki...tout un véhicule que ce Grand Vitara..Personne en offre autant pour le prix et le contenu...Personne!
Tant mieux pour Volks. Reste maintenant à polir le réseau de distribution et le service à la clientèle et Volks sera un joueur encore plus dangeureux (il l'est déjà) dans son segment
Ils ont juste à avoir au moins 3 Rabbit pis 2-3 City dans la cour et ca serait déjà un bon début.
C'est pas tout le monde qui aime acheter un char 6 mois d'avance sans savoir le taux d'intérêt à ce moment....[/quote]
un ami a ete essayer la GTI cette semaine...ils l'ont meme sortir du show room pour qu'il puisse aller faire un essai et la voiture a eu des probleme electrique en roulant. Disons que ca aide pas pour avoir un avis favorable de la voiture, mais bon, meme a ca, mon ami a adore la voiture et il pense l'acheter pareil.
Disons que c'est un heureux problème qui frappent toutes les companies qui ont un succès rapide avec un de ses modèles. Je suis certain que Volks sont assez intelligents pour remédier au problème assez rapidement! Sinon, il manque une belle opportunité de vente, les clients sont anxieux lors d'un achat de véhicule neuf, rares sont ceux qui veulent attendre si longtemps. :wink:
RacingTeacher
04/03/2007, 14h46
Bof, malgré tous les avis de fiabilité, il y a des indéfectibles trippeux de VW qui vont en acheter pareil quoi qu'il arrive.
Bof, malgré tous les avis de fiabilité, il y a des indéfectibles trippeux de VW qui vont en acheter pareil quoi qu'il arrive.
Avis de fiabilité pour les nouveau models????quel avis?????Les mk5 n'ont aucun probleme jusqu'a maintenant!!!
j'em possede un.ma conjojnte un mon meilleur chum un quatre de mes compatriotes(au travail) un aussi....un sondage sur vwquebec donne une bonne 10 de personne aussi sans probleme avec leurs mk5!! :?: ca fait une quinzaine de véhicule sans le moindre troubles...des jettas,rabbit,et gti!!
Bof, malgré tous les avis de fiabilité, il y a des indéfectibles trippeux de VW qui vont en acheter pareil quoi qu'il arrive.
Avis de fiabilité pour les nouveau models????quel avis?????Les mk5 n'ont aucun probleme jusqu'a maintenant!!!
j'em possede un.ma conjojnte un mon meilleur chum un quatre de mes compatriotes(au travail) un aussi....un sondage sur vwquebec donne une bonne 10 de personne aussi sans probleme avec leurs mk5!! :?: ca fait une quinzaine de véhicule sans le moindre troubles...des jettas,rabbit,et gti!!
Les Passat 2006 semblent de vrais cancers. Il y a beaucoup de cas sur vwvortex c'en est alarmant.
En exemple justement publié auajourd'hui;
Well, after heaping praises of my car's trouble-free ownership, the following happened.
My wife and I were on our way to see a relative in Brooklyn Saturday afternoon. Just before crossing over the Verrazano Bridge from Staten Island, I push the gas just a tad to pass a car, and holy %##%, all of a sudden there is a slight loss of acceleration and then a very loud noise like the muffler fell off. I pull over to the emergency lane. Now I'm no mechanic, but it seems to me that some kind of separation occurred at the exhaust manifold. One of New York's Finest saw us in the emergency lane and asked what the problem was. I explained to him my car's issue and he told be to follow him so that we could exit the roadway through an emergency access gate that was located just before crossing over the bridge. The gate existed right to a residential area in Staten Island. The car was able to start and run without a problem, it was just very loud. And NO CEL was shown on the MFD!!
So I didn't want to try to drive back to my home in south Jersey, and possibly do more damage to the car, I called the VW Roadside folks and they sent a tow truck which arrived in about 2 hours. Besides being upset about the car having issues, the VW Roadside assistance company only has a contract with Enterprise Car Rental, which unfortunately in the entire Staten Island area, closes for business on Saturday's at 12 noon. By that time it was 3PM.
So my wife and I had to call a cab to Newark Airport, a $40 expense, so that we could rent a car to get back home. And another setback was that Enterprise does not have a rental agency at the Newark airport. So we went to Hertz and got a small discount because my car insurance is through USAA. So VW will be owning me some cash back for my taxi fare and my Hertz car rental.
Now, where should I have my car towed?? The nearest VW service department was either in Brooklyn, about 5 miles or so (across the Verrazano) or in Linden, NJ, about 10 miles. I decided to have the car towed to Linden, which is just a tad closer to my home and in NJ. The only problem was the Linden VW dealership's service department closes their parking area (which I assume is fenced) at 4PM on Saturdays. And if my car was going to get there later than 4PM, the car would be parked on the street. The service person told me that no way would he leave his car in that part of town parked on the street over night.. thru Sunday to Monday. Well, no way was the car going to get towed there before 4PM, so my car is at the towing service's lot and will get towed to the Linden VW dealership Monday morning. The tow service driver said that their lot is well protected, so my car would be safe.
You would probably ask me if I got any indication whether my car showed any problems prior to the incident? Well I did hear some slight noise like what I would say sounded like air escaping from my engine area. But it only was heard when I hit the gas with some gusto and if I had the window open. During normal gas peddle use, nothing was heard and nothing felt strange as far as engine performance. I did not smell any exhaust fumes either. Hmmm, I thought to myself, I better get this checked out on Monday none the less. But, alas, fate stepped in.
Also, there was absolutely no CEL indications of any kind, prior to or during this exhaust issue happening. Now that was strange!!!! I had no blinking nor steady lit CEL. If I had a blinking CEL, I would have did a quick pull over to the emergency lane for sure. Now if a blinking CEL occurred and I didn't notice it (no way, since I usually check/glance at my MFD often while driving) and it went out for some reason, well that is poorly designed warning indications for a driver.
What was funny, to me anyway, was the tow truck driver's advice to me after he got my car on the flatbed. He said, "get rid of it." Not sure if he has issues against German cars or just him voicing his real-world experience. He said the VW, Audi, and one other car maker are just prone to more problems requiring his services. I had to chuckle at his comments and thought about my brethren and sistren here on the vortex forum explaining their B6 issues and the VW servicing issues....
Bof, malgré tous les avis de fiabilité, il y a des indéfectibles trippeux de VW qui vont en acheter pareil quoi qu'il arrive.
Avis de fiabilité pour les nouveau models????quel avis?????Les mk5 n'ont aucun probleme jusqu'a maintenant!!!
j'em possede un.ma conjojnte un mon meilleur chum un quatre de mes compatriotes(au travail) un aussi....un sondage sur vwquebec donne une bonne 10 de personne aussi sans probleme avec leurs mk5!! :?: ca fait une quinzaine de véhicule sans le moindre troubles...des jettas,rabbit,et gti!!
Les Passat 2006 semblent de vrais cancers. Il y a beaucoup de cas sur vwvortex c'en est alarmant.
En exemple justement publié auajourd'hui;
Well, after heaping praises of my car's trouble-free ownership, the following happened.
My wife and I were on our way to see a relative in Brooklyn Saturday afternoon. Just before crossing over the Verrazano Bridge from Staten Island, I push the gas just a tad to pass a car, and holy %##%, all of a sudden there is a slight loss of acceleration and then a very loud noise like the muffler fell off. I pull over to the emergency lane. Now I'm no mechanic, but it seems to me that some kind of separation occurred at the exhaust manifold. One of New York's Finest saw us in the emergency lane and asked what the problem was. I explained to him my car's issue and he told be to follow him so that we could exit the roadway through an emergency access gate that was located just before crossing over the bridge. The gate existed right to a residential area in Staten Island. The car was able to start and run without a problem, it was just very loud. And NO CEL was shown on the MFD!!
So I didn't want to try to drive back to my home in south Jersey, and possibly do more damage to the car, I called the VW Roadside folks and they sent a tow truck which arrived in about 2 hours. Besides being upset about the car having issues, the VW Roadside assistance company only has a contract with Enterprise Car Rental, which unfortunately in the entire Staten Island area, closes for business on Saturday's at 12 noon. By that time it was 3PM.
So my wife and I had to call a cab to Newark Airport, a $40 expense, so that we could rent a car to get back home. And another setback was that Enterprise does not have a rental agency at the Newark airport. So we went to Hertz and got a small discount because my car insurance is through USAA. So VW will be owning me some cash back for my taxi fare and my Hertz car rental.
Now, where should I have my car towed?? The nearest VW service department was either in Brooklyn, about 5 miles or so (across the Verrazano) or in Linden, NJ, about 10 miles. I decided to have the car towed to Linden, which is just a tad closer to my home and in NJ. The only problem was the Linden VW dealership's service department closes their parking area (which I assume is fenced) at 4PM on Saturdays. And if my car was going to get there later than 4PM, the car would be parked on the street. The service person told me that no way would he leave his car in that part of town parked on the street over night.. thru Sunday to Monday. Well, no way was the car going to get towed there before 4PM, so my car is at the towing service's lot and will get towed to the Linden VW dealership Monday morning. The tow service driver said that their lot is well protected, so my car would be safe.
You would probably ask me if I got any indication whether my car showed any problems prior to the incident? Well I did hear some slight noise like what I would say sounded like air escaping from my engine area. But it only was heard when I hit the gas with some gusto and if I had the window open. During normal gas peddle use, nothing was heard and nothing felt strange as far as engine performance. I did not smell any exhaust fumes either. Hmmm, I thought to myself, I better get this checked out on Monday none the less. But, alas, fate stepped in.
Also, there was absolutely no CEL indications of any kind, prior to or during this exhaust issue happening. Now that was strange!!!! I had no blinking nor steady lit CEL. If I had a blinking CEL, I would have did a quick pull over to the emergency lane for sure. Now if a blinking CEL occurred and I didn't notice it (no way, since I usually check/glance at my MFD often while driving) and it went out for some reason, well that is poorly designed warning indications for a driver.
What was funny, to me anyway, was the tow truck driver's advice to me after he got my car on the flatbed. He said, "get rid of it." Not sure if he has issues against German cars or just him voicing his real-world experience. He said the VW, Audi, and one other car maker are just prone to more problems requiring his services. I had to chuckle at his comments and thought about my brethren and sistren here on the vortex forum explaining their B6 issues and the VW servicing issues....
Pour les passat p-e je ne connais pas de proprio de cette voiture..!!!!
Bof, malgré tous les avis de fiabilité, il y a des indéfectibles trippeux de VW qui vont en acheter pareil quoi qu'il arrive.
Avis de fiabilité pour les nouveau models????quel avis?????Les mk5 n'ont aucun probleme jusqu'a maintenant!!!
j'em possede un.ma conjojnte un mon meilleur chum un quatre de mes compatriotes(au travail) un aussi....un sondage sur vwquebec donne une bonne 10 de personne aussi sans probleme avec leurs mk5!! :?: ca fait une quinzaine de véhicule sans le moindre troubles...des jettas,rabbit,et gti!!
Les Passat 2006 semblent de vrais cancers. Il y a beaucoup de cas sur vwvortex c'en est alarmant.
En exemple justement publié auajourd'hui;
Well, after heaping praises of my car's trouble-free ownership, the following happened.
My wife and I were on our way to see a relative in Brooklyn Saturday afternoon. Just before crossing over the Verrazano Bridge from Staten Island, I push the gas just a tad to pass a car, and holy %##%, all of a sudden there is a slight loss of acceleration and then a very loud noise like the muffler fell off. I pull over to the emergency lane. Now I'm no mechanic, but it seems to me that some kind of separation occurred at the exhaust manifold. One of New York's Finest saw us in the emergency lane and asked what the problem was. I explained to him my car's issue and he told be to follow him so that we could exit the roadway through an emergency access gate that was located just before crossing over the bridge. The gate existed right to a residential area in Staten Island. The car was able to start and run without a problem, it was just very loud. And NO CEL was shown on the MFD!!
So I didn't want to try to drive back to my home in south Jersey, and possibly do more damage to the car, I called the VW Roadside folks and they sent a tow truck which arrived in about 2 hours. Besides being upset about the car having issues, the VW Roadside assistance company only has a contract with Enterprise Car Rental, which unfortunately in the entire Staten Island area, closes for business on Saturday's at 12 noon. By that time it was 3PM.
So my wife and I had to call a cab to Newark Airport, a $40 expense, so that we could rent a car to get back home. And another setback was that Enterprise does not have a rental agency at the Newark airport. So we went to Hertz and got a small discount because my car insurance is through USAA. So VW will be owning me some cash back for my taxi fare and my Hertz car rental.
Now, where should I have my car towed?? The nearest VW service department was either in Brooklyn, about 5 miles or so (across the Verrazano) or in Linden, NJ, about 10 miles. I decided to have the car towed to Linden, which is just a tad closer to my home and in NJ. The only problem was the Linden VW dealership's service department closes their parking area (which I assume is fenced) at 4PM on Saturdays. And if my car was going to get there later than 4PM, the car would be parked on the street. The service person told me that no way would he leave his car in that part of town parked on the street over night.. thru Sunday to Monday. Well, no way was the car going to get towed there before 4PM, so my car is at the towing service's lot and will get towed to the Linden VW dealership Monday morning. The tow service driver said that their lot is well protected, so my car would be safe.
You would probably ask me if I got any indication whether my car showed any problems prior to the incident? Well I did hear some slight noise like what I would say sounded like air escaping from my engine area. But it only was heard when I hit the gas with some gusto and if I had the window open. During normal gas peddle use, nothing was heard and nothing felt strange as far as engine performance. I did not smell any exhaust fumes either. Hmmm, I thought to myself, I better get this checked out on Monday none the less. But, alas, fate stepped in.
Also, there was absolutely no CEL indications of any kind, prior to or during this exhaust issue happening. Now that was strange!!!! I had no blinking nor steady lit CEL. If I had a blinking CEL, I would have did a quick pull over to the emergency lane for sure. Now if a blinking CEL occurred and I didn't notice it (no way, since I usually check/glance at my MFD often while driving) and it went out for some reason, well that is poorly designed warning indications for a driver.
What was funny, to me anyway, was the tow truck driver's advice to me after he got my car on the flatbed. He said, "get rid of it." Not sure if he has issues against German cars or just him voicing his real-world experience. He said the VW, Audi, and one other car maker are just prone to more problems requiring his services. I had to chuckle at his comments and thought about my brethren and sistren here on the vortex forum explaining their B6 issues and the VW servicing issues....
J'ai fait une recherche(en francais) de fiabilité sur les passat 2006...je n'ai rien trouvé???? :?: Dire que les passat 2006 sont des cancer je pense que c'est un peu fort...!!!! :!: En plus les passat sont supposé etre plus fiable parce que construit en Allemagne ??Ce qui a mon avis est faux.!!!je pense que ton histoire peut-etre classé catégorie citron cas isolé^pour le moment...la passat partage le meme moteur que la jetta 2.0t et la gti...on ne rapporte que peux de probleme avec c'est deux derniere.....Anyway personne n'est a l'abri des citron...parlez en a ma soeur avec sa supposé voiture la plus fiable au monde CIVIC 2006 qui a trois tour de flat bed de faite en 15000km.....sans compter tout les visite pour des guguse de tout genre!!!
RacingTeacher
05/03/2007, 08h46
C'est pas le moteur turbo le problème, c'est surtout le système électrique qui n'est pas très résistant.
Va voir JD Power et cherche VW dans la fiabilité, ils sont toujours dans la cave.
Moi, ce qui m'étonne le plus, c'est la popularité des BMW, c'est rendu gros BMW au Canada malgré le faible nombre de concessionnaire. C'est LE constructeur haut de gamme le plus important au pays, devant Acura, Mercedes et Lexus !!! Chapeau BMW !!!
C'est pas le moteur turbo le problème, c'est surtout le système électrique qui n'est pas très résistant.
Va voir JD Power et cherche VW dans la fiabilité, ils sont toujours dans la cave.
Pour JD power il evalue les models de trois ans d'age...!!!les sondages sur les nouveaux modelS VW MK5 ne sont pas encore sortie...on parlais ici des MK5 .......
RacingTeacher
05/03/2007, 09h51
Ouais, justement, j'attends des preuves!
Ouais, justement, j'attends des preuves!
Tout vient a point qui sais attendre!!!! :wink:
Mais pour l'instant la jetta a deux ans d'age et beaucoup de véhicule ont plus de 80000km et la fiabilité est super bonne!!!
VW semble etre sur la bonne voie!!
Tant mieux pour Volks et pour nous tous. Il n'y a rien de mieux qu'une bonne compétition saine pour le consommateur. Une bonne bagnole de plus dans le segment obligera les autres marques à se surpasser. Go Volks!
wowlesmoteurs
05/03/2007, 13h50
Ouais, justement, j'attends des preuves!
alors pourquoi tu fesse pas aussi fort sur le produit américain, qui eux non plus ont pas encore fait leur preuve, tout comme les Coréen :wink:
Pourtant j'ai même donné la référence! JUSTE sur la première page du sous-groupe Passat B6. Catastrophique rien de moins étant donné le faible échantillonnage.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3110632
What is going on with the B6 forum?
In reading through the posts, there are quite a few members who are now walking away and trading in for other makes of vehicles.
Is the car really that problematic?
I'm afraid we're walking because we have had enough hassle; personally I can no longer afford the time away from my business. I need a car that is reliable
Picked her up from the dealership, took her to a buddies house and removed the fog lights, clear turn signals, the subwoofer box, and the navigation unit. I had to install a deck in her and take her back .... I am gonna miss her, but gotta move on.
I told her good bye and gave the guy the key thingys
Now I have a few items to go post on the sales board ......
Thanks to everyone, it has been a lot of fun
I no longer have my B6 ... I loved the car, but it started having problems and I just didn't want to deal with it anymore...
Purchased my '07 Passat Wagon (2.0T) and brought it home this past Wed night. Started it for the first time on Saturday morning- drove 10 miles to Target. Shopped for 1/2 hour- came out and car didn't start. Wouldn't turn over - was towed back to VW thanks to Roadside Assistance (if only I knew I'd have to use it after 10 miles on my first ride). Dealer said they "think" this is a fuel pump. Anyone hear anything about this? Any idea of what I can do? Should I ask for a new car completely or wait for feedback after they "discover" what's wrong? thanks.
This may be my last B6 post; I've enjoyed the interaction with the community here, but I only found you all 'cause my B6 has been so much trouble.
Not that I am mad, but I haven't even made the 1st payment on this car yet...and it's on a flatbed to the dealer already. Miles on car 1,807.
On my way home from dropping off my youngest daughter at gymnastics; the car died....at about 30 mph while accelerating towards 45..... Filled up that morning, full tank...and it acted like it ran out of gas.
VW Roadside was very cordial, and apologetic. When they told me they were going to tow to the nearest dealer (who's known to suck), I told them I wanted it towed to the purchasing dealer, 25 miles further; and that I would pay for the difference/distance. I was told to hold, when the coordinator came back on, again she apologized and stated they would tow the car to the dealer of my choice, no charge.
So off it went.....I'll be calling in soon to let them know whats going on, and to pick up the loaner at lunch. I'm not mad per se, but I am concerned that a failure could occur so soon into ownership, as neither of my MKIV's had any issues at all...just recalls.
I'll post back when I hear what it is.
After the disastrous recall affair, today I note that the engine cover is broken loose and my MPG has been reduced by about 3MPG. I discovered it when I took my car in for a trade-in evaluation. I immediately drove next door to the VW dealership and looked a floor model to confirm. Yup - the cover is broken and loose and it seems I have a spare grommet-type part in my trunk. When my car broke down, I noted that the techs stored the engine cover in the trunk. Looks like they forgot to put in a part.
What can be said? I note that I'm not the only one that has befallen this issue. If a tech can't take off an engine cover, how in the blazes can they solve the complex technical challenges.
This is unbelievable. I don't know what else to say.
I know this subject was touched on in the "rattles are driving me crazy" thread but I was wondering if anyone has found a solid solution to the console and center dash creaks? Had my car to the dealer last week for this but it came back sounding the same if not worse. Going back on Monday to have them try again though they did say they might not be able to solve the problem. Very embarrassing to have people in your new car and it sounds like the interior is falling apart.
I have been following a few threads lately where a few forum members a disappointed by the quality/reliability of their B6 and went through with trading-in their car.
I am not quite sure of the geographical distribution of the problems, but unless I am mistaking, there seems to be more issues ( relatively speaking) with US-spec cars than Canadian-spec cars.
RacingTeacher
05/03/2007, 17h28
merci pour les liens!
j'ai fait des recherches en francais....vu mon anglais plutot moyen!!! :oops:
Aussi ce qui me rend secptique a l'occasion sur ce genre de Forum...c'est qu'en anglais on plein de mauvaise histoire...tu fais des recherches en francais tu y trouve pas les meme choses???Pis en plus la passat est recommandé (parce que plus fiable)par autonet???voir lien ci-bas!
dure de s'y retouvé??? :?:
http://www4.autonet.ca/FR/Dossiers/Voitures_Berlines_int.php
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