et je pense que c'est mieux ainsi...Citation:
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et je pense que c'est mieux ainsi...Citation:
Envoyé par Francis F
Les sceptiques ne seront pas confondus, quelle surprise !!! :)
http://www.leftlanenews.com/first-dr...v4-review.html
The problem is that there's not a lot of grunt in reserve, and with what should be a svelte 3,500 lbs. to lug around, the RAV4 feels a bit pokey.
Lost in the shuffle of the simplified lineup is an overall sense that this RAV4 – the great-grand crossover of the first modern car-based SUV to hit the market – has been repositioned as something of an entry-level value alternative to vehicles with a wider range of personalization like the Ford Escape and Hyundai Santa Fe.
The RAV4 is hardly a corner carver. A new electric power steering setup undoubtedly reduces a little fuel consumption, resulting in the kind of numbness that plagues the RAV4's chief rival, the Honda CR-V. A dash-mounted Sport button firms up the steering assist ever-so-slightly, but it doesn't really make things more fun. Road noise permeates the cabin due to limited sound deadening, though wind and engine rush are mostly absent.
2013 Toyota RAV4 base price range, $24,145 to $29,285.
Pour un premier review, OUCH !!!! il y en a qui doivent mal dormir ce soir. ;)
http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...IEWS/121219903
Celui la est moins sévère, mais on s’entend, réception "tiède", ça doit vouloir dire que la qualité du véhicule est en réalité, encore plus tiède que ce que les reviews indiquent ...
De toutes façons, dans 18 mois, ils vont lui changer les lumières et mettre du beau plastique sur le dash et ce sera et une enveloppe brune au journaliste et ce sera la 8è merveille du monde.
"...Celui la est moins sévère, mais on s’entend, réception "tiède", ça doit vouloir dire que la qualité du véhicule est en réalité, encore plus tiède que ce que les reviews indiquent ... "
C'est souvent le cas. Faut lire entre les lignes. Si les premiers reviews sont ordinaires, le véhicule est au mieux mid-pack.
esti que cé laid!!!
La Camry des SUV compact. Alors que le précédent avait plus de "chien".
Le plus incroyable, c'est que Toyota table sur une production de 200 000 unités annuel pour l'amérique du nord...
Toyota a commencé a sortir le cash faut croire
http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...3_toyota_rav4/
The interior looks very, very good, thanks to two-tone colors and soft leather upholstery. Factor in a 176-hp 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine and standard six-speed automatic transmission, plus the choice of front- or all-wheel-drive, and the RAV4 seems pretty compelling. It even has a power-operated liftgate, too. A nearby Mercedes-Benz GLK seems to wobble for an instant as the 2013 RAV4 punctures the Benz's little bubble of entitlement.
Il a oublié que c'est pas du vrai cuir, et il pense que le GLK a la chienne en voyant le rav4 2013 venir :D petit comique va !
Celle la est "révélatrice" hé hé :eek:
We have no bad things to say about the electric-assist power steering
En voila un plus "modéré"
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/suvs/1212_2013_toyota_rav4_first_drive/viewall.html
Sa conclusion me semble logique et la definition meme de Toyota :
In all, the refreshed RAV4 has just enough to compete in the segment it helped pioneer, and dealers shouldn't have any issues moving plenty of units off the lot.
Bref, sos et une enieme fois mon espoir est decu de profiter de la fiabilité de toytoy dans un véhicule qui se conduit bien ...
Prix canadiens:
RAV4 FWD LE (Starting MSRP: $23,790)
RAV4 FWD XLE (Starting MSRP: $27,000)
RAV4 AWD LE (Starting MSRP: $25,990)
RAV4 AWD XLE (Starting MSRP: $29,200)
RAV4 AWD Limited (Starting MSRP: $31,700)
C'est bon. Va falloir vérifier les niveaux d'équipement. Bonne nouvelle, les 2 premiers niveaux sont disponibles en FWD et AWD.
Comparons avec le lineup actuel,Citation:
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RAV4 FWD base (Starting MSRP: $24,800)
RAV4 FWD touring (Starting MSRP: $26,200)
RAV4 AWD base (Starting MSRP: $27,500)
RAV4 AWD touring (Starting MSRP: $28,900)
RAV4 AWD Limited (Starting MSRP: $35,000)
Les versions V6 et sport disparaitraient donc, quant au groupe cuir, il sera inclus dans le groupe touring, ou bien il sera exclusif au ltd.
All three trim levels look identical save a choice of wheel sizes and designs, which means that the range-topping Limited doesn't really seem very special. That sense of sameness carries over inside, where about the only difference between LE, XLE and Limited grades is the upholstery and a few trim bits.
All three models are well-packaged with good front and rear passenger room, plus a roomy cargo area now accessible by a conventional (powered on Limiteds) lift gate rather than the swing-away door RAV4s have had up until now. The horizontally-styled dashboard is attractive and functional and all models come standard with a touch-screen audio system and a back-up camera. Materials are mostly average, though the padded and stitched vinyl trim on XLE and Limited-grade dashboards is quite nice. Opt for the XLE and you'll get sportier cloth seats, while Limited covers those in a leather-like material called Softex. Real hide isn't on the options list and Softex is more convincing than your average synthetic, but the inability to sit on real cows further underlines the RAV4's glass ceiling status.
Voila il semble que le cuir sera exclusif au LTD, les prix sont bons (4k de moins sur le ltd, 1k de moins sur le base base) mais l'équipement semble identique d'une version a l'autre a part le cuir du ltd et les roues différentes.
L’équipement de base semble bon :
Just like a full-size luxury crossover, the 2013 RAV4 has an impressive suite of consumer-friendly standard features that include active and passive safety, comfort and convenience, and electronic connectivity. What we notice first is the power-operated cargo hatch, which can be programmed to open to the height you prefer, whether this is to accommodate a shorter driver or avoid banging the low ceiling in an apartment garage. You'll find a 6-inch touchscreen in the middle of the dash, and a backup camera and Bluetooth are both standard equipment as a result. Optional niceties like blind-spot warning, cross-traffic backup alert and Toyota's simple but usable Entune multimedia system are also available. This is a lot of stuff.
Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews...#ixzz2Fi5mAtGU
le pack touring serait donc un simple blind spot/back sensor, et entune (quossé ca?).
hmm ... la fiabilité toyota avec un style un peu plus jeune et un équipement "on par" de base avec la concurrence, et un bon prix, beaucoups diront wow je suis impressioné, d'autres (dont moi) diront toytoy fait encore son japonais, donc connservateur et ne cherche qu'a rattrapper la concurrence non a etre un leader. Mais ce char semble avoir de bons atouts pour etre un best seller.
Toyota voudrait-il tuer l'escape ? (petit moteur, petit prix, bien équipé de base et liftgate ?), parceque honda avec le CRV sera plus luxueux en version EX (déja) a 31k
Interior
- Dual-zone automatic climate control with air-filtration system
- HandsFreeLink™-bilingual Bluetooth® wireless mobile phone interface
- Intelligent Multi-information Display (i-MID)
- Multi-angle rearview camera* with guidelines
- 160-watt AM/FM/CD audio system with MP3/Windows Media® Audio playback capability, Bluetooth® Streaming Audio and 6 speakers
- *Does not replace the driver’s responsibility to exercise due care while driving
Exterior
- 17” aluminum-alloy wheels
- Front fog lights
- One-touch power moonroof with tilt feature
- Body-coloured heated folding power side mirrors including expanded view driver’s mirror
Le tiguan est franchement dépassé avec son prix exhorbitant comparé a tout le segment et des prix plus agressifs en 2013 ...
Le tiguan commence a 31k :p ben oui ben oui, c'est bien connu c'est du grand luxe un tig, et ca a du 17 pouces, pas de backpup camera, de liftgate, ni de sunroof ... youppi !
ok, conflicting reports :
http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObje...guage=francais
ca a l'air que le backup camera est en option ...
oh boy, le powerlift gate est en option et les roues de bases c'est en steel avec un wheel cover , commence a être moins drôle la :
http://ca.autoblog.com/2012/12/18/20...-drive-review/
LE models come equipped with 17-inch five-spoke steel wheels with "alloy-like wide vent" wheel covers which do a surprisingly convincing job of looking like alloys at a distance. XLE and Limited models are equipped with alloy wheels in 17-inch and 18-inch sizes, respectively.
Adding that liftgate has allowed Toyota to offer optional power assist on Limited models,
bon, du cost cutting a la japonaise :
Four-wheel disc brakes (ventilated up front) are standard, though we find it a bit odd that the LE model is fitted with smaller (10.8-inch diameter, .98-inch thickness) units than XLE and Limited models (11.7-inch and 1.1-inch). Rear brakes are the same all around, measuring 11.1 inches in diameter and .472 inches in thickness. Regardless of size disparities, we found the brakes perfectly adequate during our drive.
L'enthousiasme modéré que j'avais s'est evaporé ...
the last nail ...
The five remaining seats can be covered in two fabric types or a synthetic leather substitute that Toyota calls Softex. After sampling all options, we definitely prefer the cloth – we find it hard to believe anyone will be fooled by the imitation leather. Sadly, opting for Limited trim necessitates the Softex interior treatment.
Navigation and Entune are optionally available on XLE and Limited trim levels
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35k sans navi !!!!!!!!!!! :p way to go toyota !!! Honda a un minimum de "décense" pour ofrrir la navi a 35k avec CRV touring.